1st day out after bootcamp

I took a bootcamp with Yad learning the London Daygame Model a month ago, and it was a good success and I will write a post about it soon. I went out last week with a friend and it was an absolute disaster, I didn’t approach any girls and the vibe was all off. I think this was because I wanted to ‘show’ him the skills I learned on the bootcamp, but I won’t be gaming with this good friend for a while until I know it’s changed.

I met up with a guy who I met through mutual friends who has solid game. We get along quite well, he has a great mindset, masculine job, and followed the classic zero to hero when he found PUA and the London Daygame model. We had a great vibe and he pushed me to approach my first set which got me going. It’s great too because he loves feminine latina’s + eastern europeans (most do) but I’ve got the worst case of feels for asian girls, so we rarely see the same target.

Onto the approaches.

#1 – Miya – asian girl with fur coat, mid 20s professional. Very fashionable.

I had a strong stop and she hooked easily. She gave me space to spit my game and I teased her a little bit. My stacking and assumption game is weak, Yad mentioned I don’t get into ‘enticing’ (sexual/exciting) conversation enough. Got her # and this boosted my state. No reply yet since the next day

#2 Erika – asian girl in yoga pants, typical western girl early 20s

Strong stop again but didn’t get her to hook. Maybe energy was too high but I managed to get her to stay in set for maybe 2 minutes, but she clearly wasn’t interested. She was sick as a dog and looked like shit (still pretty) but maybe she felt it was disingenuous because she looked like hell. No number didn’t get there.

#3 Mika – Fob girl from Shanghai, studying english mid 20s

I went inside a mall to go to the washroom and after I came out this delicate little girl had a shopping bag and I opened her on the escalator. I assumed familiarity well and poked at her bag and said “ooo sexy lingerie for your boyfriend? show me!”. She was shy and delicate, said she was waiting for her friends and I teased her about them being imaginary. Bantered for a few minutes, moved her to the side away from foot traffic and lots of touching + teasing. Interaction was maybe 3-4 minutes and got a #. She replied within an hour.

#4 Chinese girl dressed from Paris

I yad stopped her on an open street, she was basically in a sprint. Thought I gave enough space but she couldn’t comprehend someone would stop her on the street. She looked behind her as if I couldn’t be talking to a stranger.

#5 Anny – early 20s born + raised here

This girl is my ideal type. She got the long wavy hair, big googly eyes as an asian, thin body. I call these girls bad ass bitches because they usually attached to some jacked gangster dude who is tatted up. Krauser calls this my DNA tug I think. I swooned hard and in my positive state I knew I had to go approach.

I tried to stop her at first, and she said hi and kept walking. This dude behind me looked at me and wasn’t what I was doing. With zero hesitation I went to stop her again. Hard yad stop and I said “I’m too stubborn for this, you’re gonna give me a shot” and she hooked. I had moments of hesitation where I couldn’t keep the banter up, as usual my stacking needs work. I am pretty good at natural touching + teasing, however I still need to amp it up more.

I put her on the spot a few times. “You’re just a local, that’s a bit boring” “Where have you traveled before?”

She was quick as a whip, I asked her where she traveled and she said “Oh, I’ve only been to Hawaii, haven’t traveled much”. Then she quickly reframed “Have YOU been to Hawaii?”

Haha, cute as fuck. Got a number but wish I pushed for an Idate. She is texting back often. My state skyrocketed after this.

#6 docile esl japanese girl

Approached her as she was leaning on a shopping window. She had zero skills and I couldn’t get her to stick, this was mostly hopeless.

#7 Jessica the model

This girl had the googly eyes and my wing pushed me to approach her. I wasn’t really that into her but upon approaching she was actually stunning.

This was a good example of a girl who looks really unhappy and having a resting bitch face. Upon opening her though she was absolutely sweet. She had nothing to do for the whole day. I bounced her to an idate for 20 minutes. She was very compliant and I flirted and teased her a little bit. Again, the same interview questions came up though and while it was fun I’m not sure I polarized myself enough.

She had good eye contact, confident girl It’s interesting that model girls I’ve met through day don’t seem to proud of the fact they are a model. It’s probably because they’d rather be known for their qualities other than their beauty.

Bounced her to instant date pretty quickly grabbed a coffee and chatted for 20 minutes. Worried I did interview game again but thought it went well she was asking questions and engaged. So far, no text back in 2 days, will ping her tomorrow.

# 8 Ayako – Japanese girl street intersection late 20s

This was on my walk back to meet my friend after the instant date. She was spacing out hard in a busy intersection. I asked her “omg are you alright? You look like your dog just died”. She wasn’t that cute but not bad. My state carried it the whole way, closed her # quickly and met my friend. I chose not to text her

#9 Jenn – Teenager/early 20s student in busy mall, chinese.

Approached her as she was looking at the map for directions. She was quite confident and articulate for a girl so small. Had the presence of a lion. We spoke about weird things, she was certainly quirky (and not in that obnoxious hipster trashy way). Had a run in with a white knight, still managed to # close. She texted back quickly.

9 Approaches, 6 numbers and an instant date. Anny and Jessica are true beauties and I really hope to see them again. Jenn + Mika are quite cute and I’d enjoy seeing them again.

Strengths

When my state is on, I am unstoppable.
Bundle of energy, and I stay on course if I don’t get the initial hook.
Strong yad stops.
I do well with kino + natural touching.

Weaknesses

Still let a few approaches get away, but less than the bootcamp.
Fall into interview mode too often, need to banter more.
Weak text game
Still very reliant on state/outcome dependent

Happy with the results so far. This will give about 50 approaches under the London Daygame Model. I’ve had good success with ‘basic’ guy game where I let my instincts take over, be vulnerable with my attraction + intention but I will give this model at least 2-300 approaches before I write it off. It’s gotten me dates and numbers of girls I’m really into it.

Viva Daygame!

Authenticity and the 3 Koreans

Over the past month I had gone out on a first date with 3 different korean girls and they all followed relatively the same pattern. The first two Erika and Jiyoun I met during daygame, the third Julia I met on a night out and stopped her and her friend on the street.

The 3 dates followed the same general formula. I picked them up, took them to a quiet cafe/bar, talked and flirted and got to know them. I then bounced them to another location, either my house or a lookout and attempted to drink more with them, and generally met resistance. I try to escalate and get rebuffed, and it felt like I was forcing the whole thing.

I think I may have forced it because I have in my head this ‘roadmap’ that we are supposed to follow to have success. It’s not that I feel uncomfortable doing it, but it doesn’t feel authentic. I think the girls can feel the incongruity with me forcing the issue trying to fuck them, rather than simply enjoying our time and moving things forward. This may be caused by my self image of wanting to be a player.

How each one ended up is with a makeout in my car and 2 girls falling off the map (Jiyoun and Julia). Erika met up with me after some prying. She mentioned  after our first date ‘She did not have fun, does not want to meet again, and did not think I was a nice person’. She was the one I fucked in my car because I got her horny as hell after SO much LMR. After pushing through her resistance I got her out and on this next date I was relaxed and authentic because we had already fucked, so what did I have to lose?

Each girl was intrigued by my ‘danger’ vibe and personality, but I never allowed the soft affectionate side come out until I was on the 2nd date with Erika. I think this is why the other 2 fell off the map.

A similar thing was true with my ex. She knew my confidence was rock solid, but she also felt my affectionate, emotional side because of I opened up to her about a lot of things. Since being more relaxed on my dates with Erika, she has fallen hard for me and I can see it in her eyes when we fuck.

I think I have hit an evolution in my ‘game’ after the break up and these 3 koreans which have helped me realize that the ‘script’ has its uses, but after you get comfortable with yourself and how to connect with girls you can discard it. Like training wheels on a bicycle, I can now stop worrying about the nitty gritty and trust my instinct and experience and move things forward. My authentic self is cocky and edgy enough that I am not worried about too much ‘soft/vulnerable’ side driving girls away.

I mean shit, I am looking to get tattoos, I play poker for a living and I have a degenerate streak from my past (I even dealt drugs for a short time before poker). Why would I be worried about being too boring for a girl?

I feel relaxed and confident with this new assessment. Maybe the break up does have some positives if I keep these lessons with me. My sleep is still haunted a couple times a week, but having a young sexy girl enamoured with me takes the edge off. I find her a touch boring though, but this may be me comparing week 2 vs 10 months with Jennie. Only time will tell, she is already trying to push the boyfriend route on. Good luck with that babygirl.

First Taste

Went on a date with each of the girls I met downtown last week, J and E.

J

J is sexy, petite, and has the eyes/skin combination I really like. We met up for a beer and chatted then I moved her to a lookout spot probably too far away from my place. She seemed enamored with me for the beginning of the date, but the lull and boredom probably dragged on a bit.

I am damn good at cold reading, and I did a good job of push and pull verbally. Kino was strong, incidental knee touching, etc. This woman’s beauty being almost my exact type is a little unnerving at times, but I led the interaction and did not hesitate. She pushed back and tested me a bit logistically, why this why that, but it went alright. I bounced her to mine to grab the wine before heading to the lookout and she did not say a word, but wanted to leave my place asap. She mentioned how it was weird to be in a strangers home so soon after meeting. I wonder if this was a conscious test or if she felt my intentions. My goal was just to get her more comfortable seeing my place before heading out.

Once at the park she balked on drinking the wine, excuses about work tomorrow morning or not. Not quite sure if it was legitimate. Either my game isn’t quite tight yet, or me spending this amount of effort on a date (fairly low in my mind, paid for a pitcher of beer and picked her up). Either that or she is looking for a boyfriend type and may try to make me wait.

We bounced soon after the lookout, her pushing to go home and I got a lot of resistance for going for a makeout. We did make out and I tried to push things further but got a little too aggressive.

She’s a fun girl and has a bit of edge to her. She’s very girlish in appearance and makeup, but has some masculine qualities. It’s an interesting mix and it makes sense that she’s lived in Vancouver for 6 years but grew up in Korea.

E

I met with E the day after J. I met her in the early evening and we grabbed a coffee in a touristy area. It was raining and offered no chance to go outside. She is warm, and attentive and feminine. She did not test me nearly as much as J, so it felt like a breeze crushing her weak frame tests. I moved her to sushi later. Normally I never do dinner and such with dates, especially first dates, but I had not eaten yet at 6pm and I am a regular at ta very casual spot. I paid for our meal of which I ate 80% and the chefs and I were busting on her and each other. It was a ruckus and a good time. Going back for social proof may not be the worst idea.

I moved her back to mine for a drink and she complied easily but kept testing my intentions. She also used the word stranger often, maybe it’s an Asian thing trying to frame us as not close. I was making progress right as my younger brother came home and she retracted immediately. I imagine this is the ‘bubble bursting’ as it were. The story line is broken and real life challenges come swamping in. She never relaxes even when I move her into my room, she is pushing for an exit.

We bounce to my car and as we are outside her apartment on a major street around 10pm and we start making out hard in my car. It goes on for a couple of minutes and I start to rub her pussy through her jeans. I remember reading somewhere on Good Looking Loser recently that if you can get your hand down her pants, you are golden and the girl will be good to go. This advice did not disappoint. Once I got a finger inside her she let loose, there was no resistance and I unzipped my jeans and she went down on me.

I proceeded to drive while she was giving head to a nearby park. It was about 60 seconds away, my plan was to fuck in public cause I have a small car with a small backseat. Old school prelude for those wondering. I question now if this was a right choice, as she did a little mental gymnastics as we were driving.

In the end, she had no intention of getting out of the car, so we went at it like two high school teenagers at a drive in movie.

Now

All in all, 2 out of 3 approaches end in dates, and 1 lay on first date. I am starting to see why daygame has such an appeal.

E is gone for 3 weeks travelling, and J is playing hard to get over text. I think I have poor text game, but not sure what the barriers are. J shot me an excited text in reply to my ping back today, as she did after our date last week. Who knows?

Day 1

Signed up for a bootcamp and went out yesterday for my first taste of real ‘daygame’

We started with a short lecture, i did 2 approaches and we did some social warm up drills.

My coach kept it simple and it was not heavy like a lot of day game material out there.

approach 1

young (20~) freckled blonde welsh origin

My approach was not strong enough, my body did not square up to her, giving the impression that i am wasting her time and she is okay to leave

My mind went blank as I did not know what to say but there was little anxiety on my part. I was indifferent to her caring but she did not put any effort in

I broke eye contact about 100 times, she grabbed her phone and I did not move her.

No kino

I did close and get a # and I stayed in the interaction for 3 minutes. But I had no enthusiasm

#2

early 30s Chinese foreigner married

I followed her around a bit and waited for the ‘right moment’, of which there is none

I had voice inflections up and down, no authority and I come off as indecisive.

a bit of enthusiasm but did not square up my body.

She did more work than the first girl, she filled in silences and was excited to talk to me

Married so she was happy to practice her english with me

More kino, and teased her a bit.

Lessons from day 1

I am unconsciously feeling that I am not worthy of these girls or that I am wasting their time. This explains my hesitant body language and voice inflections.

I am not aggressive enough in my approach, frame and approach is soft and not dominant.

Not very enthusiastic, this may have been caused by me being luke warm on each girl being pushed by my coach to approach

The reason I want to get into day game is so I can get hotter younger girls, so I need my approaches to reflect that and go in with an entitlement mentality. I am an extravert by nature so I expect these problems to be fixed quickly